Monday, October 21, 2002
From: "MARIO MATOBU"
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:58:09
To: yourstruly@myhost.com
Subject:STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
Dear Friend,
Naturally this mail will come to you as a surprise,but if I may crave your indulgence, I am MR. Mario Matobu,the first son of David Matobu,one of the most popular black farmer in Zimbabwe who was recectly murdered in the land dispute in my country.I APOLOGISE FOR INVADING YOUR PRIVACY, BUT PLEASE,I appeal to you to exercise a little patience and read through my letter, and I guarantee you will not have wasted your time.
Before the death of my father, he had taken me to Johannesburg to deposit the sum of US8.5 Million (Eight Million, Five Hundred United States dollars)in one of the private security company, as he foresaw the looming danger in Zimbabwe this money was deposited in a box as gem stones to avoid much demurrage from security company. This amount was meant for the purchase of new machines and chemicals for the Farms and establishment of new farms in Swaziland.
This land problem came when Zimbabwean President Mr.Robert Mugabe introduced a new Land Act Reform wholly affected the rich white farmers and some few black farmers.And this resulted to the killing and mob action by Zimbabwean war veterans and some lunatics in the society. In fact a lot of people were killed because of this Land reform Act for which my father was one of the victims.
It is against this background that, I and my family fled Zimbabwe for fear of our lives and are currently staying in the Netherlands where we are seeking political asylum and moreso have decided to transfer my father’s money to a more reliable foreign account.since the law of Netherlands prohibits a refugee (asylum seeker) to open any bank account or to be involved in any financial transaction throughout the territorial zone of Netherlands, As the eldest son of my father, I am saddled with the responsibility of seeking a genuine foreign account where this money could be transferred without the knowledge of my government who are bent on taking everything we have got. The South African government seems to be playing along with them.
I am faced with the dilemma of moving this amount of money out of South Africa for fear of going through the same experience in future, both countries have similar political history. As a businessman,I am seeking for a partner who I have to entrust my future and of my family in his hands, I must let you know that this transaction is risk free. If you accept to assist me and my family,all I want you to do for me,is to arrangements with the security company to clear the consignment(funds) from their afiliate office here in the Netherlands as i have already given directives for the consignment to be brought to the Netherlands from South Africa.But before then all modalities will have to be put in place e.g change of ownership to the consignment and This money I intend to use for investment.
I have two options for you. Firstly you can choose to have certain percentage of the money for nominating your account for this transaction. Or you can go into partnership with me for the proper profitable investment of the money in your country.
Whichever the option you want, feel free to notify me. I have also mapped out 5% of this money for all kinds of expenses incurred in the process of this transaction. If you do not prefer a partnership I am willing to give you 15% of the money while the remaining 80% will be for my investment in your country. Contact me with throught my E-mail while I implore you to maintain the absolute secrecy required in this transaction.
Thnak and God bless you,
Yours Faithfully,
Mario Matobu.
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Dear Mario,
I am sorry to hear about your father's death, but if the way you do business (e.g. seek refuge in a foreign country kind enough to take you in and then try to cheat the laws of that country by clandestinely transferring your funds to another country) is representative of the way your father did business and treated people then sadly I must confess that it is really no great suprise to me that an angry mob of his countrymen would rise up and kill him.
Perhaps while you are a "refugee" in the Netherlands you will have time to appreciate how fortunate you are to have avoided your father's fate - a fate I feel sure that you deserved to receive as well - but somehow I doubt it.
Hoping you will soon be incarcerated and serving time for the crimes you have already committed and are trying to commit now,
vinylrake
ps. Please tell me what I need to do next to receive my share of the money!
posted by vr at 12:53 PM
Friday, October 18, 2002
And for a completely different but similar scam, here's another letter I received. I started playing with this individual but realized it was just silly so I contacted abuse@yahoo.com who promptly took some nebulous action. ------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 08:15:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "vinylrake" | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: Thank you/details
To: "Marcel Seseseko"
Dear Mr. Seseko,
I am happy to hear that you are feeling
confident about my loyalty to this undertaking, I
am feeling very good about this as well -
especially since it is neither illegal or having
to do with drugs.
I agree that before we start, we should
exchange some information about each other to
help us get to know each other better. If you
could make available to me your private telephone
and fax number and some proof of your
identification so that I can verify that you are
who you say you are I will be happy to provide
the same to you. Once I have received this
information I will send along the copy of the
Confidentiality and Non Disclosure letter which
you have requested. My attorney indicated that
the letter is pretty much a standard formality in
situations like this so I have no objection to
sending one to you.
v. rake
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Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 10:04:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Marcel Seseseko" | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
Subject: Thanks
To: "vinylrake"
Dear Rake,
Sequel to your mail my telephone number is +873762921793 and fax number:+873762921791. Also tomorrow I will send a copy of my identity to you.
Remain bless,
Marcel
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From: "Eseimoku K.Anderson(Chief)" | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
To: vinylrake@yahoo.com
Subject: Seeking Your Partnership
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 12:18:34 +0200
Dear Partner to be,
First, I must apologise to you for using this
medium to communicate to you
about this project and It is my great pleasure in
writing you this letter
on behalf of my colleagues and myself.
I am a highly placed official of Government of
Nigeria and also a
founding member of the ruling party in Power
now,the Peoples Democratic
Party(PDP).
DESCRIPTION OF PROJECT:My committee - The Niger
Delta Development
Corporation(NDDC)-which is in charge of managing
and supervising the
disbursement of oil sales revenues for the
Nigerian government which
covers payment to foreign and local
contractors,who had executed contracts
for our country.The revenues under our control
runs into several hundred
of millions of dollars monthly.Using my position
as Executive Director in
charge of projects,I and other colleagues in the
NDDC are currently in
need of a foreign partner with whose bank account
we shall transfer the
sum of Forty Nine Million Five Hundred Thosand
United States
Dollars($49.5m).
To do this, we will need your cooperation as a
foreigner who
could front to receive the fund on our behalf.
SOURCE OF FUND: The amount represents a
percentage of the total
contract value executed on behalf of my ministry
by a foreign contracting
firm which we over-invoiced. Though the actual
contract value has been
paid to the original contractor, leaving a
balance to the tune of the
amount aforementioned, which we have in principle
secured approval to
remit by telegraphic transfer (T.T) to any bank
account, you will provide.
PROCEDURE: Since the present government of
Nigeria is determined to pay
every foreign contractor all debts owed so as to
maintain good
relationship with foreign governments and
non-governmental financial
agencies,however,by virtue of our position as
civil servants and members
of the NDDC, we cannot acquire this funds in our
name. This is because as
top civil servants, we are not allowed by law of
the land to own or
operate bank accounts outside our country for
now.
We have decided to include our bills for approval
with the cooperation of
some officials from the relevant government
establishments.
We are seeking your assistance in providing a
good company's account or
any other offshore bank account into which we can
remit this money by
acting as our main partner and trustee or acting
as a sub contractor. This
will involve the swapping of account; changing of
beneficiary name;and
other forms of documentation.
I have the authority of my partners to propose
that should you be
willing to assist us in the transaction, your
share of the sum will be 10%
of the U$49.5million,80% for us while the balance
will be set aside for
refund of all expenses incurred during the
process of the transaction.
The transaction, although discrete, is legitimate
and there
is no risk or legal disadvantages either to
ourselves or yourself now or
in the future as we have put in place perfect
mchineries that will ensure
a hitch free transfer into your account upon
acceptance.
The transfer will be effected to your account
within ten-fourteen
(10-14) working days as soon as we reach an
agreement and you furnish
me with a suitable bank account and company name
and address with all
your contact numbers including fax number.
Expecting your response and thank you for your
cooperation.
Sincerely,
Anderson K. Eseimoku
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:38:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Anderson Eseimoku" | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
Subject: Further Information
To: vinylrake@yahoo.com
Dear Friend,
Many thanks for your interest in this deal and your request to know the details of this one off transaction.
WHAT SHOULD BE DONE
We shall require you to complete the accompanied PROFORMA INVOICE in your company letter head papers which should be signed underneath to enable us make application for payment to the relevant government ministry or parastatal that we choose to use for the funds to be transfered into your nominated account.
We shall introduce your company as the bonafide contractor who executed a contract.Based on the homework we have already done,the application will be approved and forwarded to the relevant government payment agencies for final approval and thereafter the funds will be transfered to your account.
To this effect,I need you to assure me of the following in your response:
A.ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH 10% OF THE SUM AS YOUR COMMISSION?
B.CAN YOU GUARANTEE THAT WE WILL GET OUR SHARE OF THE MONEY WHEN IT GETS TO YOUR ACCOUNT?
C.CAN YOU GUARANTEE VERY STRICT CONFIDENTIALITY WITH THIS DEAL?
At the successful conclusion of the deal,I will travel to meet you to collect our share and enter into joint partnership with you on other investements that you may propse to me.
You will see below the sample copy of PROFORMA INVOICE which you should type on your company letter head.
THE DIRECTOR GENERAL,
PROJECT AND ENGINEERING/ACCOUNTS DEPARTMENT,
FEDERAL MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY,
MAITAMA DISTRICT,
GARKI-ABUJA
SIR,
PROFORMA INVOICE
REF:CONTRACT NO.FMST/PED/403/704/98
CONTRACT AMOUNT:US$49,500,000.00(FORTY NINE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS)
I.....................,PRESIDENT/CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE ABOVE NAMED COMPANY DO HEREBY APPLY AND PUT FORWARD TO MAKE CLAIMS IN RESPECT OF THE ABOVE CONTRACT SUM TO MY ACCOUNT BELOW STATED:
NAME OF BANK .................
BANK ADDRESS..................
ACCOUNT NUMBER...............
BENEFICIARY NAME...............
ROUTING/SWIFT NUMBER............
TELEX NUMBER....................
I SHALL BE MOST GRATEFUL IF MY APPLICATION IS URGENTLY CONSIDERED AND GRANTED FOR MY FUNDS TO BE REMITTED INTO MY ACCOUNT TO ALLOW US TO SETTLE ALL OTHER COMMITMENTS WITH REGARDS TO THE CONTRACT WHICH IS NOW OVERDUE.
YOUR KIND CO-OPERATION WILL BE HIGHLY APPRECIATED.
YOURS FAITHFULLY,
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(PRESIDENT/C.E.O)
Awaiting your urgent response as I would want us to take advantage of the payments been made now by our government.
My fax number for you to fax the PROFORMA INVOICE to is 234-1-7597401.Or you may send the PROFORMA INVOICE as ATTACHMENT to your mail to me if you find it difficult faxing it to me.
I will further advise that you give this project the desired urgent attention as I have put in place perfect machineries that will ensure a hitch free transfer into your account.
I will be looking forward to doing business with you and opening telephone conversation before we start the transfer process.
Best Regards,
Anderson
Note:Henceforth,please correspond to me via my new e-mail address as follows:eseiak6@yahoo.com
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:49:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: "vinylrake" | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: Further Information
To: "Anderson Eseimoku"
Anderson,
In my opinion, you are a very bad person who
preys on the gullibility and greed of your fellow
humans.
Your story about a money making offer is as
fake as your name, but I found it very amusing to
read so thank you for the entertainment it
provided.
I have reported you to the proper authorities
and I hope you receive the justice you deserve.
vr
posted by vr at 1:31 PM
Another version of the Nigerian phone scam, my less than gracious reply follows. I think I was a little on edge when I wrote it. Although it might be my best response yet. I duly reported the individual to it's ISP expecting nothing back so was suprised to get an amusing email from the ISP's abuse staff.
From: "MRS. M. SESE-SEKO"
Reply-to: mobutu_101@linuxmail.org
To: yourstruly@mymail.com
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:29:30 -0700
Subject: CONFIDENTIAL TRUSTEE
DEAR FRIEND,
I AM MRS MARIAM SESE-SEKO WIDOW OF LATE PRESIDENT MOBUTU SESE-SEKO OF ZAIRE? NOW KNOWN AS DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO (DRC). I AM MOVED TO WRITE YOU THIS LETTER, THIS WAS IN CONFIDENCE CONSIDERING MY PRESENT CIRCUMSTANCE AND SITUATION.
I ESCAPED ALONG WITH MY HUSBAND AND TWO OF OUR SONS DAVID AND JAMES OUT OF DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF
CONGO (DRC) TO ABIDJAN, COTE D'IVOIRE WHERE MY FAMILY AND I SETTLED, WHILE WE LATER MOVED TO SETTLED
IN MORROCO WHERE MY HUSBAND LATER DIED OF CANCER DISEASE. HOWEVER DUE TO THIS SITUATION WE DECIDED
TO CHANGE MOST OF MY HUSBAND'S BILLIONS OF DOLLARS DEPOSITED IN SWISS BANK AND OTHER COUNTRIES INTO
OTHER FORMS OF MONEY CODED FOR SAFE PURPOSE BECAUSE THE NEW HEAD OF STATE OF (DR) MR LAURENT KABILA HAS MADE ARRANGEMENT WITH THE SWISS GOVERNMENT AND OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES TO FREEZE ALL MY LATE HUSBAND'S TREASURES DEPOSITED IN SOME EUROPEAN COUNTRIES. HENCE MY CHILDREN AND I DECIDED LAYING LOW IN AFRICA TO STUDY THE SITUATION TILL WHEN THINGS GETS BETTER, LIKE NOW THAT PRESIDENT KABILA IS DEAD AND THE SON TAKING OVER (JOSEPH KABILA). ONE OF MY LATE HUSBAND'S CHATEAUX IN SOUTHERN FRANCE WAS CONFISCATED BY THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT, AND AS SUCH I HAD TO CHANGE MY IDENTITY SO THAT MY INVESTMENT WILL NOT BE TRACED AND CONFISCATED. I HAVE DEPOSITED THE SUM EIGHTEEN MILLION UNITED STATE DOLLARS(US$18,000,000,00.) WITH A SECURITY COMPANY , FOR SAFEKEEPING. THE FUNDS ARE SECURITY CODED TO PREVENT THEM FROM KNOWING THE CONTENT. WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO IS TO INDICATE YOUR INTEREST THAT YOU WILL ASSIST US BY RECEIVING THE MONEY ON OUR BEHALF.ACKNOWLEDGE THIS MESSAGE, SO THAT I CAN INTRODUCE YOU TO MY SON (DAVID) WHO HAS THE OUT MODALITIES FOR THE CLAIM OF THE SAID FUNDS.
I WANT YOU TO ASSIST IN INVESTING THIS MONEY, BUT I WILL NOT WANT MY IDENTITY REVEALED. I WILL ALSO WANT TO BUY PROPERTIES AND STOCK IN MULTI-NATIONAL COMPANIES AND TO ENGAGE IN OTHER SAFE AND
NON-SPECULATIVE INVESTMENTS. MAY I AT THIS POINT EMPHASISE THE HIGH LEVEL OF CONFIDENTIALITY,
WHICH THIS BUSINESS DEMANDS, AND HOPE YOU WILL NOT BETRAY THE TRUST AND CONFIDENCE, WHICH I REPOSE IN YOU.
IN CONCLUSION, IF YOU WANT TO ASSIST US , MY SON SHALL PUT YOU IN THE PICTURE OF THE BUSINESS, TELL YOU
WHERE THE FUNDS ARE CURRENTLY BEING MAINTAINED AND ALSO DISCUSS OTHER MODALITIES INCLUDING
REMUNERATION FOR YOUR SERVICES.
FOR THIS REASON KINDLY FURNISH US YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION, THAT IS YOUR PERSONAL TELEPHONE AND
FAX NUMBER FOR CONFIDENTIAL PURPOSE.REPLY TO MY CONFIDENTIAL. I MUST LET YOU KNOW HERE THAT THIS IS A LEGAL BUSINESS DEAL I AM INTRODUCING TO YOU, AND YOUR PERCENTAGE SHALL BE FORWARDED TO YOU.
N.B : PLS. I NEED HELP FAST.
BEST REGARDS,
MRS M. SESE SEKO
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 19:33:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: yourstruly@myemail.com>
Subject: Re: CONFIDENTIAL TRUSTEE
To: mobutu_101@linuxmail.org
Dear "MRS. M SESE-SEKO",
I am sorry to hear that you and your sons escaped safely from Zaire. Given your intent to rob the citizens of your country I wish you had been captured by a mob of your countrymen, hacked to death with machetes and had your bodies dragged through the streets and then your decapitated heads stuck on poles outside of your former palace.
sincerely,
yourstruly
ps. Please let me know what I need to do next to get some of this money.
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Date: 19 Oct 2002 08:30:20 -0000
From: "Outblaze Abuse Desk"
To: yourstruly@myemail.com
Subject: Re : Fwd: CONFIDENTIAL TRUSTEE
Hello
Thank you for contacting the outblaze.com abuse desk.
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engineers, attorneys and relatives of dead dictators.
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There is only one thing that we hate more than spammers - 419 (nigerian) scam artists abusing our systems.
Please see http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/ for more about this well known scam.
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posted by vr at 8:14 PM
Tuesday, June 25, 2002
No mail in over a month. I wonder if I said something wrong?
posted by vr at 7:35 PM
Tuesday, June 04, 2002
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 14:46:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: "smart dean" | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: Let's be sincere to each other.
To: "vinylrake"
Dear Vinyl Rake,
I'm in receipt of your mail and the content are well noted to me.I understand you are delaying this business purposely,i can't just understand the reason of your refusal to send your a/c information even an empty one so that i can apply to the Foreign Exchange Department of the Bank on your behalf for quick procession of transfer in your name because we
must have to apply to the bank first for them to issue us the Approval Documents to show you are the rightful beneficiary to the former deseased holder of the a/c and you must attatch your a/c no. were you wish the money to be transfered in the Application Form.
You will be required to come down here in South Africa to sign the Final Fund Release Order Form but that will be after we must have received the Approval Documents from the Bank to show that you are the rightful beneficiary to the deseased holder of the a/c and the bank will issue you Clearance Certificate which will be endourse in your country to show the fund going into your a/c is a clean money and does not relate to Drug Money,Terrorism Money etc.
So send me the a/c informations immidiately so that i can apply to the Foreign Exchange Department of the Bank first thing on monday morning because time is not on our favour and our insider in the bank who is incharge of the Foreign Exchange Department of the Bank is worried about your delay in sending the a/c details so that we can start procession of transfer as you may know that he is the person to approve the payment in your favour.
For your notice you don't have to worry about disguising your self because nobody will question you on that and that is the reason we are here for you also you should know that i have done my home work perfectly before contacting you,i will assure you again that the success of this business is a forgone conclussion if you will follow the instructions i will
be seecking from the insider in the bank and the Minister who is deeply involve with us in this business.
You can call me on any of my satelite tel nos. which is already with you or through my private tel no. 27-837-265625 so that we can have a heart to heart discussion regarding the onward fund transfer and send me also your tel nos. both office and at home for easy communication.
Please if you are not capable and willing to further this business with me do not hesitate to inform me for me to know the next line of action to take and too many questions can rack a ship.
I wait to receive the a/c informations.
Regards,
Yanka Dean.
posted by vr at 8:30 AM
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 08:16:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: "vinylrake" | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: Let's be sincere to each other.
To: "smart dean"
Mr Dean,
I am sorry for the delay in responding to your email, things have not been going very well for me these past couple of weeks - this last week has been the worst of all.
I mentioned to you I think that one of the reasons I am so excited about your offer to split the inheritance money with me is because I don't have a lot of money? Well, that's kind of an understatement, at this point in time I actually
have NO money at all. I have basically been living off of credit cards for the past couple of months, and two weeks ago the phone company shut off my phone service completely because I have not paid my phone bill in 6 months. This is why I have not been able to call you as you have asked. I am sorry for not telling you sooner, but I was embarrassed to admit that I am so poor that I can not even afford a phone, and I was afraid that you might look at my financial problems and think that I am untrustworthy for some reason and not want to do business with me. Well, having my phone shut off was bad enough, but because I have been unemployed for the past year and a half and my employer is disputing that a work related spleen injury that has kept me from being able to work is really work related, I have been unable to collect disability payments and have had to use my only savings to pay for my court expenses. I believe my former employer is being unreasonable because the injury I received in the process of rescuing a homeless cat from a gang of teenage thugs who were shaving it and abusing it in other ways too shameful to mention. Just because I was on my lunch break does not mean that the injury was not work related. I was at work on the day of my injury, and it occurred in the parking lot right near my former employer's business. Anyways, because of these cash flow problems the bank closed both my checking and my savings account because I have bounced so many checks in the past few months. I no longer even
have a bank account to my name. I was shocked when this happened last friday and was again embarrassed and ashamed to tell you for fear you would not want to do business with me.
Smart Dean, I really want to finish this inheritance business with you, in fact I _need_ to now more than ever. I have to get some more money to pay my bills as soon as possible, can you please figure out some way we can make this
happen? I can't get another bank account right now because my credit is so bad and I have no money to deposit in an account that I would need several hundred dollars to start a new account. Would you mind loaning me the money to start a new account? I would be happy to put your name on the account so that you will have full access to the monies. Does that sound reasonable? If you want to talk in person (by phone) I could talk to you from a pay phone, but I would need to call you collect, or maybe you could mail me one of those phone cards and I could use that to call you? Let me know which way works for you.
Dean, please let me know how we can make this business work, I am very anxious to make this work, I am looking forward to receiving the millions in inheritance and I know my financial situation is a little uncertain right now, but I promise that you can trust me in this endevor.
Look forward to hearing fom you,
vr
posted by vr at 8:34 AM
Friday, May 31, 2002
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 17:16:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: "smart dean" | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: Answers to your questions.
To: "vinylrake"
Dear vinyl,
How are you today? Sorry for the late reply,the reason was that i had a server failure for the past days
now. I would have called you on telephone and explain to you but i'm not with your tel no.
Below are the answers to your questions.
> I am dissapointed to hear that my idea to fly
> to South Africa to meet you and pick up the money
> in person doesn't sound good to you. I was
> really looking forward to meeting your father,
> and to staying in his palace. I've never met
> royalty or stayed in a palace before. Maybe I
> could meet your family sometime after this
> business has been completed?
For your notice,there is never a time i told you
to come and pick the money in person. What i said is
that you should come and sign the final Fund Release
Order Form and after all the signings here the fund
will be transfered into your a/c in your a/c in your
presence and we will fly back together to your country
with the Bnak official for withdrawal,sharing and possible
investments.
> I am a little confused still though about why I
> can't just fly to south africa to pick up the
> money. You said we had to follow the instructions
> of the bank insider, but I thought YOU were the
> bank insider since you are the auditor general of
> Prime Banks of Africa. Aren't YOU the one who
> discovered the extra money?
Is true that i'm the Auditor general of the Bank but not a regular staff of the Bank. I only have the legal
right to work in the Bank once daily during our (AGM)annual general meeting.
> > even if is an empty a/c just send it so long as
> > it can contain money and we can make withdrawal and
> > also to be following instructions which i will be
> > seeking from the Bank official who is seriously
> > involve with us in this business. The reason why i
> > request for an empty a/c is for you to not think that
> > somebody you don't know wants to take your money
> > from your a/c.
> Of course I won't let you down, besides if you
> have access to the account and can withdraw money
> you can take the money out as soon as you have
> deposited it there. Hey wait a minute! If YOU can
> take the money out yourself how do I know that I
> can trust YOU?? How do I know that YOU aren't
> going to just take the money out and leave me
> nothing?
Under normal circumstances,there is no way i can
withdraw any money from your a/c because every
particulars about the a/c is under your name
unless it is a joint a/c between you and me.
> Oh, I am looking forward to the fund transfer, in
> fact I have already started buying things in
> anticipation - I have already spent everything in
> my bank account and have started charging items -
> so the sooner we transfer the money the better -
> I think I am getting used to spending lots of
> money! :) :) !!!
You should not buy anything yet,untill we get Foreign Exchange Control Approval from the Ministry of Finance in your name to show that you are the legal rightful beneficiary to the deceased holder of the a/c.
> Let's get the ball rolling here,
The ball is already rolling there and let's keep it rolling here.
I'm looking forward to your positive reply.
Yours,
Yanka Dean.
posted by vr at 11:59 AM
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:59:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: "vinylrake" | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: Answers to your questions.
To: "smart dean"
Mr Dean,
Well, I sure am sorry to hear about your server problems - I hope you have them all fixed now and won't have any additional problems with it.
> For your notice,there is never a time i told you to come and pick the money in person.
I understand that now, I thought in your first note to me you mentioned that I could EITHER put the money into a foreign account OR that the money needed to be claimed by a foreigner - I misunderstood and thought I could just claim the money in person. Please excuse my misunderstanding, these international banking laws are all kind of confusing to me.
> What i said is that you should come and sign the final Fund Release
> Order Form and after all the signings here the fund will be
> transfered into your a/c in your a/c in your presence and we will fly back together to your country
> with the Bnak official for withdrawal,sharing and possible investments.
Now I am REALLY confused, I thought you said that you and the official were going to fly HERE to sign the papers!
> Is true that i'm the Auditor general of the Bank but not a regular staff of the Bank. I only have
> the legal right to work in the Bank once daily during our (AGM)annual general meeting.
Wow, you must work fast, in America bank audits take many many days to complete!
> The reason why i request for an empty a/c is
> for you to not think that somebody you don't know wants
> to take your money from your a/c.
Well, I already told you that I don't have any money in fact I am quickly sliding into debt so that's not something I need to worry about! LOL! :)
> Under normal circumstances,there is no way i
> can withdraw any money from your a/c because every
> particulars about the a/c is under your name
> unless it is a joint a/c between you and me.
Well, that's not exactly true, because if I knew your name and your bank account number I would think it would be pretty easy for me to impersonate you. Of course in this case since you are african and I am European, I don't think it work very well since even an almost blind person can tell that we probably look nothing alike!
> You should not buy anything yet,untill we get
> Foreign Exchange Control Approval from the Ministry of
> Finance in your name to show that you are the legal
> rightful beneficiary to the deceased holder of the a/c.
Well, I wish you had told me that earlier, I already have spent about $40-50,000 on videogames and pet toys (my dog has lupus and doesn't have long to live so I wanted to pamper him during his last days). I am sure that there will be no problem getting the approval from the Ministry of Finance since I can definately prove that I am a foreigner. By the way, what will I need to do to prove that I am a relative of the deceased? Will I need to wear a disguise like a wig or a fake mustache when I go to the bank? Will I need to learn about the deceased or dress up? Will I need to pretend that I am a relative? I am a pretty good actor, so I think I can fool the bank officials if I need to. But I will need some information about the deceased if I am going to pretend to be a relative of his. Can you give me some information about him so I can study about him and be ready? I will learn this really quickly, you can depend on me!
> The ball is already rolling there and let's
> keep it rolling here.
I think the ball is rolling swiftly, let me know what I need to do get certification from the Ministry of Finance,
v.rake
posted by vr at 12:09 PM
Tuesday, May 28, 2002
Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 15:49:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: "smart dean" [smart_dean07@yahoo.com]
Subject: Urgent.
To: "vinylrake" [vinylrake@yahoo.com]
Dear viny,
I recieved your mail and the content are well noted and i will like you know that despite the fact that we have not seen or met each other before,i still bestowed my trust and confidence in you hoping that the (Binding Agreement)will help us to build mutual understanding between the both parties as you may know that (Binding Agreement)is the only legal instrument which normally binds 2 business partners or more together as one in every business all over the world.
Your idea is not bad but we must have to follow the instructions of the insider in the bank so that we will not have any problem.First we need to apply to the bank in your name for the transfer to be approved in your name as the righful beneficiary of the fund.
You should also know that apart from my family background,i have been in the banking field for over 18 yrs.now so is my responsibility to make sure we abide to the laws of inheritance and also to make sure that we get all the neccessary approval documents from the appropriate authorities, while your own responsibility is to provide a secured a/c of your choice where this funds will be transfered to even if is an empty a/c just send it so long as it can contain money and we can make withdrawal and also to be following instructions which i wiil be seeking from the Bank official who is seriously involve with us in this business.
Like i told you earlier my most worry is the safety of this fund once transfered out of my country and i will like you to re-assure me that you are not going to let me down when once transfered this fund into your a/c in your country. Go ahead and furnish me with any a/c information of your choice together with your tel nos.both office and at home so that we can proceed to the transfer.
I'm not forcing you to do otherwise,so please let me know your mind towards the onward fund transfer.
Yours,
Yanka Dean.
posted by vr at 6:03 AM
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posted by vr at 6:58 AM
Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 05:51:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: "vinylrake" [vinylrake@yahoo.com]
Subject: Re: Urgent.
To: "smart dean" [smart_dean07@yahoo.com]
Dear Smart Dean Yanka,
I am wondering why I have not heard from you in response to my last letter to you. I am feeling concerned, I hope you are in good health and that the delay in your response is not something serious.
Please write to me as soon as possible so that we can get this inheritance business straightened out - I am really looking forwards to (even depending on it you might say) :) receiving my share of the inheritance money.
Please let me know what our next steps should be,
thank you,
v.rake
posted by vr at 7:00 AM
Thursday, May 23, 2002
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 18:28:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: "dean yanka"
Subject: Request for assistance.
To: vinylrake@yahoo.com
3/5 RIDER HAGGARD
CLOSE, JO, BORG
SOUTH AFRICA.
-------------------
(URGENT AND CONFIDENTIAL)
------------------
(RE: TRANSFER OF ($ 152,000.000.00 USD
(ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO MILLION DOLLARS
Dear sir,
We want to transfer to overseas ($ 152,000.000.00 USD) One hundred and Fifty two million United States Dollars) from a Prime Bank in Africa, I want to ask you to quietly look for a reliable and honest person who will be capable and fit to provide either an existing bankaccount or to set up a new Bank a/c immediately to receive this money,even an empty a/c can serve to receive this money, as long as you will remain honest to me till the end for this important business trusting in you and believing in God that you will never let me down either now or in future.
I am. Smart Yanka Dean, the Auditor General of prime banks in Africa, during the course of our auditing I discovered a floating fund in an account opened in the bank in 1990 and since 1993 nobody has operated on this account again, after going through some old files in the records I discovered that the owner of the account died without a [heir] hence the money is floating and if I do not remit this money out urgently it will be forfeited for nothing. the owner of this account is Mr. Allan P.Seaman, a foreigner, and an industrialist, and he died, since 1993. and no other person knows about this account or any thing concerning it, the account has no other beneficiary and my investigation proved to me as well that Allan P. Seaman until his death was the manager Diamond Safari [pty]. SA.
We will start the first transfer with fifty two million [$52,000.000] upon successful transaction without any disappoint from your side, we shall re-apply for the payment of the remaining rest amount to your account.
The amount involved is (USD 152M) One hundred and Fifty two million United States Dollars, only I want to first transfer $52,000.000 [fifty two million United States Dollar from this money into a safe foreigners account abroad before the rest, but I don't know any foreigner, I am only contacting you as a foreigner because this money can not be approved to a local person here, without valid international foreign passport, but can only be approved to any foreigner with valid international passport or drivers license and foreign a/c because the money is in us dollars and the former owner of the a/c Mr. Allan P. Seaman is a foreigner too, [and the money can only be approved into a foreign a/c However, we will sign a binding agreement, to bind us together I got your contact address from the Girl who operates computer, I am revealing this to you with believe in God that you will never let me down in this business, you are the first and the only person that I am contacting for this business, so please reply urgently so that I will inform you the next step to take urgently. Send also your private telephone and fax number including the full details of the account to be used for the deposit.
I want us to meet face to face to build confidence and to sign a binding agreement that will bind us together before transferring the money to any account of your choice where the fund will be safe. Before we fly to your country for withdrawal, sharing and investments.
I need your full co-operation to make this work fine. because the management is ready to approve this payment to any foreigner who has correct information of this account, which I will give to you, upon your positive response and once I am convinced that you are capable and will meet up with instruction of a key bank official who is deeply involved with me in this business.I need your strong assurance that you will never, never let me down.
With my influence and the position of the bank official we can transfer this money to any foreigner's reliable account which you can provide with assurance that this money will be intact pending our physical arrival in your country forsharing. The bank official will destroy all documents of transaction immediately we receive this money leaving no trace to any place and to build confidence you can come immediately to discuss with me face to face after which I will make this remittance in your presence and three of us will fly to your country at least two days ahead of the money going into the account.
I will apply for annual leave to get visa immediately I hear from you that you are ready to act and receive his fund in your account. I will use my position and influence to obtain all legal approvals for onward transfer of this money to your account with appropriate clearance from the relevant ministries and foreign exchange departments.
At the conclusion of this business, you will be given 35% of the total amount, 60% will be for me, while 5% will be for expenses both parties might have incurred during the process of transferring.
I look forward to your earliest reply through my email address or you can reach me on private tel no. 011-874-762-727947 or 871-762-727947. Fax no.874-762-727949
yours truly,
Yanka Dean.
posted by vr at 8:37 AM
Thu,16 May 2002
Hey Dean,
Sure, I can be trusted. Send me the money.
Mr. V. Rake
Sat, 18 May 2002 11:28:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: "smart dean" [smart_dean07@yahoo.com]
Subject: I need to know more about you.
To: vinylrake@yahoo.com
Dear vinyl Rake,
At first, I am assuring you again that this business is 100% guaranteed, it is safe, legal and there will
be complete documents of transaction to show the source and origin of the money going into your a/c.
I am 54yrs. old, and I am married with children, my Full name is Smart Yanka Dean Cethswayo, I am
from Royal Cethswayo family in Zulu South Africa, I cannot do anything that will spoil the good name of my Great Family or, tarnish your own image. But let me tell you my intention of doing this business, I’m not doing this business because of the huge amount of money involve, am only doing it because of the legality and safety of the business.
So send me any a/c information of your choice so that I will apply to the bank for transfer to be
processed in your name as the beneficiary, you can send me any a/c and from any bank, even if the a/c is empty just send it so far it will receive funds and we can be able to make withdrwals as well. But if you
feel that you will not be capable to handle this business,please do not hesitate to inform me
immediately.
I wait for your immediate reply.
Yours,
Yanka Dean
posted by vr at 8:49 AM
Sat, 18 May 2002 11:28:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: "smart dean"
Subject: I need to know more about you.
To: vinylrake@yahoo.com
Dear vinyl Rake,
At first,I am assuring you again that this business is 100% guaranteed, it is safe, legal and there will be complete documents of transaction to show the source and origin of the money going into your a/c.
I am 54yrs. old, and I am married with children, my Full name is Smart Yanka Dean Cethswayo, I am from Royal Cethswayo family in Zulu South Africa, I cannot do anything that will spoil the good name of my Great Family or, tarnish your own image. But let me tell you my intention of doing this business, I'm not doing this business because of the huge amount of money involve, am only doing it because of the legality and safety of the business.
So send me any a/c information of your choice so that I will apply to the bank for transfer to be processed in your name as the beneficiary, you can send me any a/c and from any bank, even if the a/c is empty just send it so far it will receive funds and we can be able to make withdrwals as well. But if you feel that you will not be capable to handle this business,please do not hesitate to inform me immediately.
I wait for your immediate reply.
Yours,
Yanka Dean
posted by vr at 8:52 AM
Inbox for vinylrake@yahoo.com Yahoo! - My Yahoo! Options - Sign Out - Help Mail Addresses Calendar Notepad Prev | Next | Inbox Flag This Message Download Attachments Sat, 18 May 2002 11:31:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "smart dean" | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: Call me immediately for more details.
To: vinylrake@yahoo.com
Dear vinyl Rake,
Again, I must assure you that this business is risk and trouble free. I contacted you for this important business as a total stranger due to the great need to involve a foreigner who will act and receive this fund in his account because the account belong to a foreigner who died without a WILL. The management of the bank is ready to pay the money to any foreigner who has the correct information about the account which I will GIVE to you along with all the LEGAL DOCUMENTS needed by the management of the bank, and with the help of a top official of the bank who isdeeply involved in this business. Everything will work out fine.
But my only worry is the security and safety of this fund once transferred to your account as we have not known before, and I do not know any foreigner and the bank management will never approve the fund to a local account or indigenous name. We also have a strict banking policy which does not allow citizens of my country to transfer funds out to abroad but a foreigner has unlimited right to transfer funds. Based on these reasons, I now decided to contact you so that you can receive this fund in your account and we share it according to my earlier stated percentages.
I therefore request that you send me any a/c informations of your choice together with your private telephone numbers, both office and at home so that i will apply to the Foreign Exchange Department of the Bank for quick proccession of transfer in your name as the beneficiary.
On receipt of the above information, I will start the processing of the transfer to your account. I will also send you the death certificate and affidavit of fact will be prepared in your name and the court will issue letter of administration which will serve as a WILL stating you as the legal and the rightful beneficiary of the fund. With these document sent to the bank the fund will be transferred to your account.
Be informed that all arrangement to see to the successful transfer of this fund in your account is already in place and I will proceed with the processing on receipt of your safe account information with your strong assurance that you will not let me down either now or in the future.
CALL ME ON MY SATELLITE PRIVATE TEL No: 874-762-727947,871-762-727947, 870-762-727947 but you will first of all dial your country code No. before dialing my No,you don't need to put South African Code because it is a satellite tel no.
It's urgent you call or you send me your private tel no.immediately so that I can brief you regarding the foreign payment procedures, because you will be required to come and sign the final fund release order either here in South Africa, or at any of the Foreign Payment Offices attached to the Embassy.
I'm looking forward to your earnest call.
Sincerely,
Yanka Dean
posted by vr at 8:56 AM
Wed, 22 May 2002 02:18:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: "smart dean" | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: What is the state of your mind.
To: vinylrake@yahoo.com
Dear Rake,
How are you today? I was expecting your mail for me to know the next line of action.Send me your tel nos. both office and home for me to be briefing you regarding the onward transaction.Call me on any of my satelite tel nos. which is already with you or my private ground tel no. which is 27-837-265625 for more clerification.
Please if you feel you can not be capable to handle this business do not hesitate to inform me for me to know the next line of action to take.
Looking forward to your earliest reply.
Sincerely,
Dean Yanka.
posted by vr at 8:59 AM
Wed, 22 May 2002 10:42:19 -0700 (PDT) From:"vinylrake" | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject:Re: Be rest assured.
To: "smart dean"
Smart Yanka Dean,
Now I am getting confused what I should call you? I do not how to address African royalty. should I call you Mr. Dean, Smart, or Yanka?
> Bank man our insider in the Bank Mr. Fred
> Thambo who
> is ready now to make everything possible in the
> Bank.
Can you tell me what Bank Mr. Thambo works for so I can contact him directly?
> You are asking me to give you the contact of my Bank
> and the Bank,if you call the Bnak what will you tell them?
> or if they ask you questions what will you answer?
No, No, that isn't what I was asking - perhaps my english was not clear. What I asked is if you can give me the name of _a_ bank, _any_ bank in your city that I could set up an account in. Not _your_ bank, I will set up an account in a bank in YOUR city so that it will be easier for YOU to get the money. I am concerned that if _I_ have a large sum of money deposited to a United States bank account that I will have to pay taxes on the whole amount - if my bank account shows a deposit for millions of dollars I will have to pay taxes on the WHOLE amount - which would be 50% - because of gift/inheritance taxes. If you deposit millions of dollars in my account and then take more than half of it out I end up owing the US government millions of dollars and they will take away my home and put me in jail! I do NOT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN! I am sure you can understand my concern, I mean who wants to go to jail? Not me I can assure you of this!
So, I am trying to find a way to help you which will not cause me to owe millions of dollars in taxes to the US government.
I look forward to hearing from you,
Vinyl
posted by vr at 9:02 AM
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 07:13:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "vinylrake" | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: What is the state of your mind.
To: "smart dean"
Dear Smart,
I am fine thank you for asking. I already sent you an email telling you that I am happy to assist you in your plan to redistribute unclaimed money. I must tell you though that the plan was a little complicated for me to understand - I was very confused about how it all work - probably because I am not really familiar with international banking laws and unclaimed money and things. At first I thought you might be asking me to be doing something illegal but then after hearing your explanation I understand that you are really just trying to put some money that doesn't belong to anyone to good use. But it all still sounds too complicated to me - how about you just send me the name and contact information for a bank I can deal with in the country you live in, and I can set up an account there? Then you could deposit the money into that account - it would be local to you so it would be easier for you to get the money in and out of and you wouldn't have to worry about my character or whether I can be trusted. Once you have taken the money out of the account you can send me a wire transfer for my share - I trust that you will follow through and send me my share once you have the rest of the money.
How does that sound? It sounds a lot simpler to me.
regards,
Vinyl Rake
posted by vr at 9:05 AM
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 08:48:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: "smart dean" | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: Be rest assured.
To: "vinylrake"
Dear Vinyl Rake,
I am a proffesional Accountant and my possition is the Chief Auditor American {equivalent} of { C.P.A} certified public Accountant. I have been in the field for over 18years and I am 54years old married with 5 children 2 girls and 3 boys I am also from a christain home and by the Nature of our tradition and being the first born of my Father, I will occupy my Father's traditional Throne chair after he passes on, and being the traditional Chief of our community and as the heir apparent to the Royal Throne chair I can never, never do anything, that will tarnish your image or the image of the Great Cesthwayo family, the birth place and traditional home of Chaka the Zulu the legend, well you can undertstand more about our family in a book called Africa who is who or from the book called the makers of moderm Africa, However I am not doing this business because of the large amount that is involved but rather because it's safe and very safe for both of us, I will be very happy to welcome you in my Father's Royal palace when once you touch your feet in the soil of South Africa and after the transfer from here, we will go together to your country , me and you and the Bank man our insider in the Bank Mr. Fred Thambo who is ready now to make everything possible in the Bank.
You should not entertain any fear for any reason because I will not do anything that will hurt your feelings and I wouldn't like you to do anything that will hurt my feelings, rather the success of this business will benefit both familys from generation to generation as long as you follow my instructions
You are asking me to give you the contact of my Bank and the Bank,if you call the Bnak what will you tell them? or if they ask you questions what will you answer? please feel free with in this business because we have an insider in the Bnak and he is the person making eveything possible till date.
So go ahead and open the a/c and furnish me with the full inmformations of the a/c so that we can proceed for the procession of transfer in your name as beneficiary. But you can ask me any question regarding to this transfer.
Yours,
Yanka Dean.
posted by vr at 9:09 AM
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002
From:"vinylrake"
Subject:Re: Be rest assured.
To: "smart dean"
Smart Yanka Dean,
Now I am getting confused what I should call
you? I do not how to address African royalty.
should I call you Mr. Dean, Smart, or Yanka?
> Bank man our insider in the Bank Mr. Fred
> Thambo who is ready now to make everything
> possible in the Bank.
Can you tell me what Bank Mr. Thambo works for so I can contact him directly?
> You are asking me to give you the contact
> of my Bank and the Bank,if you call the
> Bnak what will you tell them? or if they
> ask you questions what will you answer?
No, No, that isn't what I was asking - perhaps my english was not clear. What I asked is if you can give me the name of _a_ bank, _any_ bank in your city that I could set up an account in. Not _your_ bank, I will set up an account in a bank in YOUR city so that it will be easier for YOU to get the money. I am concerned that if _I_ have a large sum of money deposited to a United States bank account that I will have to pay taxes on the whole amount - if my bank account shows a deposit for millions of dollars I will have to pay taxes on the WHOLE amount - which would be 50% - because of gift/inheritance taxes. If you deposit millions of dollars in my account and then take more than half of it out I end up owing the US government millions of dollars and they will take away my home and put me in jail! I do NOT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN! I am sure you can understand my concern, I mean who wants to go to jail? Not me I can assure you of this!
So, I am trying to find a way to help you which will not cause me to owe millions of dollars in taxes to the US government.
I look forward to hearing from you,
Vinyl
posted by vr at 9:15 AM
Wed, 22 May 2002 21:47:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: "smart dean"
Subject: Very urgent.
To: "vinylrake"
Dear vinyl,
You can call me any of my name which is already with you. Dr.Fred Thambo,is working under (ADB)Africa Development Bank and you can call him on his tel no.27-834-843825.
For your notice,there is no need of you opening an a/c here because the management will not approve the payment to local Bank here,as you know that the deceased holder of the funds was a foreigner with a foreign a/c, so i suggest you should open an a/c in your country because this is an inheritance funds and it does not attaract Tax/IRS but if there must be a Tax involve on your side,the govt.of US.will deduct it from the main amount and what ever that remains will be our own and we will share it according to our agreed percentages.
You should feel very free with me in this business because i did my home work well before ever thinking of contacting you to participate in this business of high magnitude.
Call me immediately or you send me your tel nos.both office and at home because we need to have a heart to heart discussion regarding the fund transfer.
Yours,
Yanka Dean.
posted by vr at 9:17 AM
Thu, 23 May 2002 08:24:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: "vinylrake" | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: Very urgent.
To: "smart dean"
Dear Mr. Dean,
> You can call me any of my name which is already with
> you. Dr.Fred Thambo,is working under (ADB)Africa
> Development Bank and you can call him on his
> tel no.27-834-843825.
Thank you for you offers of phone numbers, but I must confess that my bank account is just about empty right now so I really can't afford to be making an international phone calls right now. But, once I have the inheritance money in my account I will be able to afford to call you and talk for as long as I like!
> For your notice,there is no need of you opening an a/c
> here because the management will not approve the
> payment to local Bank here,as you know that the
> deceased holder of the funds was a foreigner with a
> foreign a/c, so i suggest you should open an a/c in
> your country because this is an inheritance funds and
> it does not attaract Tax/IRS but if there must be a
> Tax involve on your side,the govt.of US.will deduct it
> from the main amount and what ever that remains will
> be our own and we will share it according to our
> agreed percentages.
I am still confused I think. If the account in a South African bank is opened BY a foreigner, and the payment is made TO a foreigner why won't the bank Mr. Thambo works for made the payment? I would think that the bank would only care whose name is on the account, not where the bank is located. Heck, if the bank doesn't care whose name is on the account you and Mr. Thambo could just open an account in another country yourselves and you wouldn't even need me. I know bank rules and regulations can be confusing, and sometimes they don't make sense, I guess I just need a little more explanation so I can understand things a little better.
Also, I am sure that you know that when I get an inheritance payment I will have to pay 50% of the money to the U.S. Government. That seems like an awful lot of money to pay, I was wondering if maybe you and Mr. Thambo would prefer I set up the account in a country that doesn't have such strict tax banking laws? I have heard that the Camen Islands, Bermuda, and Switzerland all have pretty easygoing bank-tax laws so maybe that would be a better place to set up an account? I would be happy to travel to any of these countries to set up an acount. Right now I don't really have the finances to pay for a trip like this but if you or mr. Thambo would send me the money for plane fare and lodgings in advance (I could pay for meals) you could take the expense of the trips out of my share of the money. You could even take it out with interest if you would like!
> You should feel very free with me in this business
> because i did my home work well before ever thinking
> of contacting you to participate in this business of
> high magnitude.
I appreciate your thoroughness and willingness to explain the details to me, I can tell that you take this business very seriously.
Oh, one thing I was wondering - are you the only Auditor General at Prime Banks of Africa? It sounds like a really important position but I was concerned that if there were other auditors they might discover what we are doing and try to get the money for themselves.
thank you,
v.rake
posted by vr at 9:20 AM
Thu, 23 May 2002 08:26:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "vinylrake"
Subject: Question regarding staff
To: afdb-webmaster@afdb.org "African Development Banks"
Dear webmaster,
I recently received an email offering me a business proposal from someone claiming to be working with someone from your institution. The reason I am writing to you is to check to see if the individual does in fact work at your institution. The person's name is Dr. Fred Thambo and I was told that he worked in the South African division of your organization. Does this person in fact work at the African DevelopmentBank?
The second reason I am writing is that I wanted to alert you to the fact that someone is using the name and reputation of your institution to make what appear to be fraudulent illegal business propositions. I am sure that the reputation of your institution is important to you and I thought you would want to know that someone is using your bank's name for illegal ends. I have cell phone numbers of the two individuals who are involved in this activity, I will be happy to provide these to you if you are interested.
Please let me know what actions you have taken on this matter,
Thank you, v.rake
Thank you,
V.Rake
posted by vr at 9:22 AM
[Web form email sent to http://www.mtn.co.za/home/about.asp a South African satellite phone provider that the phone#s listed below appear to be leased from] Thurs, 23 May, 2002 11:00 AM Dear Customer Service Person, I have recently received several unsolicited scam solicitations from an individual who I believe is one of your customers. This person has repeatedly tried to engage me in illegal bank transfer schemes and is using your phone service to conduct his sleazy business. The person is using two phone numbers, they are 27-837-265625 and 27-834-84382. The name he has been using is 'Dean Yanka" but I am sure this is not his real name. I urge you to investigate this matter and take whatever steps are requred to make sure that this individual will not be using your service to conduct his illegal activities. I will be happy to provide additional details of his activities if you need them. Please let me know what actions you are taking to resolve this matter, thank you, v.rake
posted by vr at 9:31 AM
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